Article 2
On some Lata songs

Author: Vish Krishnan

[The following was a response by Vish Krishnan to a request for details regarding some Lata songs]

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>jo main jaanti bisrat hain saiyan ghunghata mein aag laga deti
>Movie:         Shabab
>Starring:      Bharat Bhooshan, Nutan
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Naushad
>Lyrics:        Shakeel

The movie had 3 other Lata solos ("Jogan Ban Jaaongi", "Mar Gaye Hum Jeete Ji"
and "Marna Teri Gali Mein").  Perhaps one of Nutan's best movies, it was also,
in my opinion, among Naushad's best.  There are two exquisite duets in this
movie ("Chandan Ka Palna" by Lata-Hemant and "Man Ki Been Matwari Baaje" by
Lata-Rafi).

SHABAB really started the trend for Ustad Naushad featuring truly classical
voices.  It has a great Amir Khan song (may be two).  Almost on the heels of
SHABAAB came BAIJU BAAWRA, and once again, we heard from Amir Khan and D.V.
Paluskar.  Naushad stopped for a while and did it again in MUGHAL-E-AZAM, this
time with Bade Ghulam Ali Khan singing "Prem Jogan Ban Gayee" and "Shubh Din
Aayo, Saaheb-E-Aalam".

>
>woh paas nahin majboor hai dil, hum aas lagaaye baithe hain
>Movie:         Naubahaar
>Starring:
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Roshan (his first movie)
>Lyrics:        Shailendra (??)

I am hesitant to use superlatives, but there are two other Lata songs from this
movie ("Ai Ri Main To Prem Diwani", and "Dekho Ji Mera Jiya Churaye Liye Jaaye")
- they are right up there for Roshanlal's compositions for me.
 

>ja re badra bairi ja ja ja re
>Movie:         Bahaana
>Starring:      Don't know
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Madan Mohan
>Lyrics:        Rajinder Krishan

Madan Mohan did most of his work with two prime lyricists - Rajinder Krishan
and Raja Mehdi Ali Khan.  Majrooh has a handful of songs with him (BAAGHI,
AKELI MAT JAIYO, DASTAK, AAKHIRI DAO and some others), Kaifi Aazmi wrote songs
for all Chetan Anand-Madan Mohan movies, and Sahir had his meagre share.
It is amazing that some key figures of ghazal writing (Shakeel for instance)
never worked with Madan Mohan, the maestro of ghazal compositions.

Sahir wrote the songs for RAILWAY PLATFORM ("Basti Basti Parbat Parbat",
"Chand Maddham Hai Aasmaan Chup Hai", "Jiya Kho Gaya, O tera Ho gaya"),  then
GHAZAL ("Naghma-O-Sher Ki Saugaat", "Meri Mehboob Kahin Aur Mila Kar MujhSe",
etc) and finally LAILA-MAJNU (finished by Jaidev once Madan Mohan was no longer
able to work on it).

Madan Mohan was not easy to write for.  He was intolerant of sloppy work. I
urge you to do the following research.  You know what I mean when I talk about
filler phrases in Hindi songs.  It is when the words don't fit the music just
right, the singer does a bit of "Aa..." or "Oo..." and returns to home base.
Try to find a Madan Mohan song that has this feature.  You will have real
trouble.  He never had the need for fillers.  The words fitted just too
perfectly.

>
>jhan jhan jhan jhan paayal baaje kaise jaaoon pi se milan ko
>Movie:         Buzdil
>Starring:      Dev Anand, Kamini Kaushal (??)
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         S.D.Burman
>Lyrics:        Sahir (??)

One of Lata's first few songs with S.D., this was accompanied by another couple
of great ones.  One in particular ("Main Albeli, Run Jhun Run Jhun Baaje
Ghoonghar Mora") has made it to the dual-cassette RARE GEMS OF LATA release
by HMV in recent times.  Then of course, there was "Rote Rote Guzar Gayee
Raat".

The RARE GEMS OF LATA release is worth owning.  There are some forgotten MDs
in there, and there are some mighty fine songs.

>
>o sajna barka bahaar aayi
>Movie:         Parakh
>Starring:      Motilal, Sadhana (Bimal Roy's masterpiece)
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Salil Chowdhary
>Lyrics:        Shailendra

PARAKH was actually a great movie, and Bimal Roy was also somewhat in love
with Sadhana Shivdasani - Babita's cousin, Hari Shivdasani's niece and later,
R.K.Nayyar's wife.  You can see PARAKH just to see Sadhana in her pristine
charm before she got gobbled up by the more commercial movies. Although she
made her first movie LOVE IN SIMLA under R.K.Nayyar's direction, Bimal Roy
featured Sadhana in two of his works.  One of course, was PARAKH, and the other
was PREM PATRA (with Shashi Kapoor). These were two of 6 Bimal Roy movies that
had Sir Salil Chowdhury's music, the others being DO BIGHA ZAMEEN, MADHUMATI,
KABULIWALA and USNE KAHA THA.  Bimal Roy himself started experimenting in
parallel with S.D. Burman, and made 3 movies there (SUJATA, BANDINI and Meena
Kumari's BENAZIR, also starring Ashok Kumar and Shashi Kapoor).  Musically
speaking, BENAZIR was a sleeper.  People have completely forgotten it, but
some of Lata's best S.D. songs are to be found in that movie.  Look out for
"Alvida Jaan-E-Wafaa, Meri Manzil Aa Gayee", "Jaane Jana, Mil Ja, Mil Jaa Re",
"Husn Ki Bahaaren Liye, Aaye The Sanam", "Bahaaron Ki Mehfil Suhaani Rahegi"
and a Rafi treat "Dil Mein Ek Jaan-E-Tamanna Ne Jagah Paayee Hai").  S.D. did
not go madly after strict classical performances from Lata.  There are a few
examples, and BENAZIR is a close one.  Incidentally, BENAZIR is probably also
the first and last time song and ghazal writer Shakeel Badayuni wrote for S.D.
Burman.

Then Bimal Da made what I think was his last Hindi movie.  DO DUNI CHAAR was
an Indianzed Shakespearean Comedy of Errors with Kishore Kumar and Tanuja both
in double roles.  The music director was Hemonto Mukherji, a change for Bimal
Da.  The Kishore masterpiece "Hawaaon Pe Likh Do, Hawaaon Ke Naam" is from this
one.

Back to PARAKH.  It had 3 other Lata classics ("Mila Hai Kisi Ka Jhumka", "Ye
Banji Kyon Gaaye, Mujhe Kyon Sataaye" and my favourite of them all "Mere Man
Ke Diye", a song with the Calcutta choir singing in the background - there
were a few of those).

>
>man mohana baDe jhooTe
>Movie:         Seema
>Starring:      Balraj Sahni, Nutan
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Shankar Jaikishan
>Lyrics:        Shailendra

I believe this was an Amiya Chakroborty movie (not sure).  But it was the
second time the two stalwarts Balraj Sahni and Nutan worked together.  They
had earlier appeared in the O.P.Nayyar treat SONE KI CHIDIYA.  At any rate,
SEEMA is the story of a prisoner reform effort, and overall, is a good movie.
It also has some tremendous songs.  Ustad Ali Akbar Khan plays with feeling for
Lata's "Suno Chhoti Si Gudiya Ki Lambi Kahaani".  Then there is another Lata
song "Baat Baat Mein Rootho Na".  The Manna Dey classic "Tu Pyaar Ka Saagar
Hai" is from here, and so is Rafi's gift in "Kahaan Jaa Rahaa Hai Tu Ai Jaane
Waale".

Balraj Sahni happens to be my only truly favourite Hindi movie hero.  Outside
of his 1-tier greats like DO BIGHA ZAMIN, KABUILIWALA and GARAM HAWA, his
second-tier movies are great as well.  These would be SEEMA, SONE KI CHIDIYA,
LAJWANTI, ANURADHA, KATHPUTLI, PINJRE KE PANCHHI etc.  Incidentally, the first
ever Meena Kumari movie (MADHOSH) starred Balraj Sahni.

On another note, honest Jaijaiwanti compositions in Hindi movies are very rare.
Other than "Mana Mohana..", I remember Manna Dey's "Bairan Ho Gayee Rain" from
Madan Mohan's DEKH KABIRA ROYA, a classic Lata song "Shaam Bhayee Ghanshyam Na
Aaye" from S.N.Tripathi's KAVI KALIDAS  and a lost-for-ever Lata solo  "Bhool
Jaana Na" from MAALTI MAADHO, one of the 3 Hindi movie gems by composer Sudhir
Phadke.

There are lesser Jaijaiwanti songs  like "Sooni Sooni Saans Ke Sitaar Par" from
LAAL PATTHAR and "Tere Mere Sapne" from GUIDE.  But really, they do not count
in the overall scheme of things.

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>ja ja re ja saajna, kaahe sapnon mein aaye jaake des paraaye
>Movie:         Adalat
>Starring:      Pradeep Kumar (double role) and Nargis
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Maestro Madan Mohan
>Lyrics:        Rajinder Krishan

It is impossible to pick the best movies of Madan Mohan.  At least up until
the mid-60's, they were all exquisite.  But I am tempted to pick favourites,
and I rank ADAALAT as my top-ranking favourite Madan Mohan movie, ever.

If you  had an opportunity to see MAMTA, a mid-60s Ashok Kumar-Suchitra Sen
movie, then ADAALAT was a male double-role version of the same story.
Based on a sound story line from the Bengali classic "Uttara Bhadrapad", the
movie has room for dance songs.  While Roshan had explicit mujras in MAMTA,
Madan Mohan's approach for ADAALAT was more subtle.  All time Lata classics
like "Yoon Hasraton Ke Daag Mohabbat Mein Dho Liye", "Unko Ye Shikayat Hai Ke
Hum Kuch Nahin Kehte", "Jaana Thaa Hum Se Door Bahaane Banaa Liye" and a seldom
heard cute song "Tum Chaand Ke Saath Chaley Aao, Ye Raat Suhaani Ho Jaaye"
are all from this movie.

The song you mentioned  is curious in its own right.  It has 3 versions.
Match that.  How many other Hindi movie songs that you know of have more than
2 versions?  Lata sings two of them, a happy and a sad version.  And then Asha
has a jumpy and mischievous version of the same song.  The notable thing about
the Asha version is that embedded in it are glimpses of O.P.Nayyar. For some
reason, Madan Mohan could not resist the temptation of using OP-style
orchestration.

Then there is a great Rafi-Asha duet that goes "Zameen Se Hamein Aasmaan Par,
Bitha Ke Giraa To Na Dogey", and the clincher is an Asha-Geeta duet in perfect
Punjabi Giddha style ("Dupatta Mera Malmal da").
 

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>jeena humko raas na aaya hum jaane kyon jeete hain
>Movie:         Raat aur din
>Starring:      Nargis, Pradeep Kumar
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Shankar-Jaikishan
>Lyrics:        Shailendra or Hasrat Jaipuri (don't know which)

Again, I am having trouble remembering the melody.  Somehow the above song
does not register.  I have seen the movie.  It was years ago.  Anything Nargis
touches turns to gold.  The movie really had nothing going for it except
decent music and Nargis' acting prowess (she plays a schizophrenic personality).
The songs I do recall are some Lata solos ("Raat Aur Din Diya Jaley","Na Chhedo
Kar Ke Afsaane", "Aawara Ai Mere Dil"), the deadbeat Mukesh version of "Raat
Aur Din", a forgettable Rafi song "Phool Sa Chehera Chaand Si Rangat" and a
Lata-Manna Dey treat "Dil Ki Girah Khol Do" - a song that rekindles memories
of the same pair singing in CHORI CHORI and SHREE 420.

>
>hai re woh din kyon na aaye
>Movie:         Anuradha
>Starring:      Balraj Sahni, Leela Naidu
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Pt.Ravi Shankar
>Lyrics:        Shailendra

A well-constructed plot with mature acting, to say nothing of what ended up
being among the best Hindi songs ever created, ANURADHA is worth watching.

It was Ravi Shankar's first Hindi movie, and in addition to the 4 supreme
Lata solos, it also had a decent Manna Dey song ("Sun Mere Laal, Yoon Na Ho
Behaal") and a Lata-Mahendra Kapoor chorus ("Le Ke Dil Ka Saaz Hum, Geet gaane
Aa Gaye").

In the early '60s, Ravi Shankar also did the music for GODAAN, a wonderful
Premchand novel.  Starring Raj Kumar, Kamini Kaushal and Mehmood, this was a
serious look at a village family, and of necessity, the music was more folksy.
There is a great Rafi song ("Pipra Ke Patwa Sareekhe Doley Manwa") and then
there is a good Tilak Kamod structure to Mukesh's "Diya Jarat Rahat Din Rain".
Mahendra Kapoor and Geeta Dutt obviously enjoy singing "O Madhubaini Kyon
Tarsaaye".  But my two most favourite songs of the movie are both by Lata.
She sings a wedding song that goes "Chali Aaj Gori Piya Ki Nagariya", and then
she sings an energetic and somewhat classical Maanjh Khamaj composition ("Jaane
Kaahe Jiya Mora Doley Re").
 

>
>aaj kal mein dhal gaya, din hua tamaam, tu bhi so ja so gayi, rang bhari shaam
>Movie:         Beti Bete
>Starring:      Sunil Dutt, Saroja Devi
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Shankar Jaikishan
>Lyrics:        Shailendra or Hasrat Jaipuri (has to be one or the other)n

I am trying to recall other songs from this movie.  It was a tearjerker from
the South, one in the long line of Prasad Productions movies that always did
well all over the country.  Mr. L.V.Prasad started his Hindi movie stint with
the Meena Kumari/Raj Kapoor/Rajendra Kumar hit SHARDA (C.Ramchandra had some
great music in it).  Then he switched loyalties to Shankar Jaikishan, and made
CHHOTI BAHEN, SASURAL, HAMRAHI and BETI BETE.  At that point, I guess he was
no longer sure.  So he made DADI MA (Roshan) and then permanently switched to
Laxmikant and Pyarelal starting with MILAN.

There is also a Rafi version of "Aaj Kal Mein Dhal Gayaa", and I recall another
unmemorable Rafi-Asha duet "Gori Chalo Na Hans Ki Chaal Zamaana Dushman Hai".
 

>
>jhoom jhoom dhalti raat, leke chali mujhe apne saath
>Movie:         KOHRAA
>Starring:      Biswajeet, Waheeda Rehman
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Hemonto Mukherjee
>Lyrics:        Shakeel Badayuni
>

If you apply a perverse transformation to the story line, you could claim that
KOHRAA was based on REBECCA, the Daphne Du Maurier piece of work. It was one in
a long series of Gitanjali Pictures productions that always had music by
Hemonto Da, always got directed by the great Biren Naug as long as he lived,
and at least for the first 3 movies, starred Biswajeet and Waheed Rehman. It
all started with BEES SAAL BAAD.  Again, some claimed that it was an Indian
HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES story.  That's bull.  Next came BIN BADAL BARSAAT
followed by KOHRAA.  Lesser known movies like FARAAR and SANNATA followed.  At
this point, Biren Naug was gone, and the movie studio switched to non-murder
mystery fare, and continued on with BIWI AUR MAKAAN, KHAMOSHI, RAAHGIR and
finally SAU SAAL PEHLE.

I am listing these movies here mainly because of the Lata-Hemonto connection.
I have been thinking about creating a set of cassettes for Lata solos sung
to Hemonto Da's music.  I know the series of movies to capture in there, but
I am missing some serious contenders like DURGESH NANDINI, CHAAND, SHART,
FARAAR, SANNATA, SAU SAAL PEHLE etc.

Wonder if you have heard the two beautiful Lata solos from FARAAR.  One of
them is "Dil-E-Nadaan Ko Sambhaaloon to Chaley Jaaiyega".  But the other one
that goes "Pyaar Ki Dastaan, Tum Suno To Kahen"m is even better - in fact, I
think it is one of the best Lata songs sung for Hemonto.
 

>nainon mein badra chhaye, bijli si chamke haye
>Movie:         Mera Saaya
>Starring:      Sunil Dutt, Sadhana (double role), Raja Paranjape
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Maestro Madan Mohan
>Lyrics:        Raja Mehdi Ali Khan

There is quite a bit of similarity between WOH KAUN THI and MERA SAAYA.  Both
movies were directed by Raj Khosla, both had Sadhana in a double role, both
had music by Madan Mohan and finally, both lyrics were written by Raja Mehdi
Ali Khan.

Other songs from MERA SAYA were Lata solos ("Tu Jahan Jahaan Rahega", "Naino
Walee Ne Hai Mere Dil Loota" and the Bhimpalasi song "Nainon Mein Badraa
Chhaye"), and a Rafi solo "Aap ke Pehloo Aa Kar Ro Diye". But the most popular
song from the movie was also among the most popular Madan Mohan songs ever, and
 that was "Jhumka Giraa Re, Bareilly Ke Bazaar Mein".
 

>badli se nikla hai chaand pardesi piya laut ke tu ghar aaja
>woh bhooli daataan lo phir yaad aa gayi
>
>Movie:         SANJOG
>Starring:      Mala Sinha, ??
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Maestro Madan Mohan
>Lyrics:        Rajinder Krishan
>

Another great one from Madan Mohan, SANJOG had 3 great Lata solos (other than
the two mentioned above, there is "Chalaa Hai Kahaan, Duniya Idhar Hai Teri").
There is a Lata-Mukesh duet (you might have heard "Ek Manzil, Rahi Do Phir
Pyaar Na Kaise Ho") and there is a mediocre Rafi song ("Do Ghoont Maine Pi").
 

>aei mere dil-e-naadaan tu gham se na ghabraana
>Movie:         TOWER HOUSE
>Starring:      ?????
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Ravi
>Lyrics:        Asad Bhopali

I know little about the movie itself other than that I recall 2 other songs.
One is a really good Asha solo "Mausam Hai Jawaan Noor Mein Khoye Hain Nazare"-
a very typical Ravi song this.  Then there is a Rafi-Asha duet "Ye Haseen Raat
Ye Bahaar Ye Samaa".  Of course, there is also a wonderful Lata-Mukesh duet
of all times ("Main KhushNaseeb Hoon Mujhko Kisi Ka Pyaar Mila").  There is
also a Mukesh solo version of this song.  In general, TOWER HOUSE was among
Ravi's better creations.

In general, a good Lata-Ravi song is hard to find.  He clearly had a preference
for Asha's voice.  The TOWER HOUSE song is one, and then there is a movie
called EK SAAL, where Lata has a couple of gems ("Sub Kuch Lutaa ke Hosh Mein
Aaye to Kya Kiya" and "Chaley Bhi Aao, Chaley Bhi Aao").  To get decent Lata
songs from Ravi, one needs to go to the South Indian productions like KHANDAAN,
MEHRBAAN, NAI ROSHNI, RAAKHI, DO KALIYAAN and so forth.

Some time ago, someone had posted a note on RMIM suggesting that Ravi did not
compose for that many movies.  I don't know what "that many" is, but Ravi has
over 65-70 movies to his credit.  He had among the best professional relation-
ship with a number of North Indian movie makers.  Notable among them was B.R.
Chopra, but there were also the lesser people like Devendra Goyal, S.D.Narang
Ramandand Sagar, R.K.Nayyar and O.P.Ralhan.  Then there were the tearjerkers
from the AVM and GEMINI camps, and again, Ravi was quite popular with them.

>
>bindiya chamkegi choodi khankegi, teri neend ude te ud jaaye
>Movie:         Do Raaste
>Starring:      Mumtaz, Rajesh Khanna?
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         LP
>Lyrics:        Anand Bakshi (I suspect)
>

This was one of 3 Rajesh Khanna-Mumtaz movies (the others being SACCHA JHOOTA
and APNA DESH).

By the time this movie came along (1970 or so), my favourite MDs were either
dead and gone OR were on they way down anyway.  I stopped paying attention
to Hindi movies with the advent of the '70s.
 

>bol ri katputli dori kaun sang baandi
>Movie:         Katputli
>Starring:      Dilip Kumar?, VyjayantiMala
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                Balraj Sahni

>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Shankar Jaikishan
>Lyrics:        Shailendra or Hasrat Jaipuri

I have no knowledge of this movie other than a good Lata song ("Baakad Bum
Bum Baaje Damroo").  Also, I wonder if you remember a Subir Sen song "Manzil
Wohi Hai Pyaar Ki, Raahi Badal Gaye".
 

>
>baiyan na dharo re balma
>Movie:         Dastak
>Starring:      Sanjeev Kumar, Rehana Sultan
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Maestro Madan Mohan
>Lyrics:        Majrooh Sultanpuri

If you have not seen DASTAK, you should consider checking it out.  It is not
often that the same movie picks up 4 or 5 gold medals from the President of
India (aka Urvashi Awards).  Both Sanjeev and Rehana got that award for best
actor and actress respectively.  It was judged best picture and also got an
Urvashi for Madan Mohan's music.  The story and direction were by Rajinder
Singh Bedi (who was quite famous especially in Punjabi literary and theatre
circles - examples are GARAM COAT and EK CHADAR MAILI SI, both of which were
acclaimed as literary landmarks).  The DASTAK story was quite depressing, and
the B/W picturization, although exquisite, only added to the pathos. It is the
story of a newlywed couple that inadvertently rents a place in the red light
district of Bombay.

This was Rehana's first movie.  She made a fatal mistake by showing her acting
prowess and her totally intelligent presentation of a woman stuck in her kind
of predicament.  Popular rumour has it that most male leads were threatened
by her strong presence, and essentially refused to do movies with her.  So much
for the secure male ego of Bombay cinema.  As a result, Rehana was relegated
to B-grade movies like CHETNA (and other than Feroz Khan's KHOTAY SIKKE, I
can't even recall any of her movies).

DASTAK has only 4 songs.  Three of them are Lata solos ("Baiyyan Na Dharo
Balma", "Hum Hain Mataa-E-Koocha-O-Bazaar Ki Tarah", "Mai Ri Main Kaase
Kahoon").  The Rafi song "Tum Se Kahoon Ek Baat Paron Se Halki Halki" is quite
a classic.  Some HMV tape also released the little known/heard version of
"Mai Ri" sung by Madan Mohan.

Above all, the musical hallmark of DASTAK is not the songs we know, but the
background music throughout the movie.  It is characterized by some superb
thumri, dadra and mujra songs.  There is even a mujra version of "Baiyyan Na
Dharo Balma".
 

>
>woh jo milte the kabhi humse deewanon ki tarah
>Movie:         Akeli mat jaiyo
>Starring:      Manoj Kumar?, Mala Sinha
                I don't know about this movie
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Maestro Madan Mohan
>Lyrics:        Majrooh Sultanpuri

I don't know this movie, but I recall three songs, the Lata ghazal above being
one of them.  There is the title song by Lata and chorus, but the most popular
song from this movie was the Asha sizzler "Thodi Der Ke Liye Mere Ho Jaao". It
was a treat to play on the accordion.

AMJ was among the very few Madan Mohan movies where Majrooh wrote the lyrics.
I wish they had done more work together, although, I am also a big fan of
Rajinder Krishan, Raja Mehdi Ali Khan and Kaifi Aazmi who together took the
lion's share of Madan Mohan's ghazal tunes for their poetry.

>
>rooTe saiyan hamaare saiyan kyon rooTe, na toh hum bewafa na toh hum jhooTe
>Movie:         Devar
>Starring:      Dharmendra, Sharmila, Deven Varma, Shashikala
>Singer(s):     Lata
>Music:         Roshanlal
>Lyrics:        Majrooh (I think)

DEVAR had 2 Lata songs.  You mentioned one and the other one is "Duniya Mein
Aisa Kahaan Sabka Naseeb Hai".

The movie was quite good.  It is a Bengali story titled "Naa", and Deven Varma
shows the serious side of his acting here.  Mukesh sings two songs ("Bahaaron
Ne Mera Chaman Loot Kar" and "Aaya Hai Mujhe Phir Yaad Wo Zaalim") and there
is a horsetrot Rafi song "Kaajal Waale Nain Mila Ke").

Followup by Dr. Rajan Parrikar

I apologize in advance to rmim-denizens for dumping a music-related post
without any prior warning. Also, am restricting myself to Hindi film
music - that should disarm the Illaiyaraja troop.

> Madan Mohan did most of his work with two prime lyricists - Rajinder Krishan
> and Raja Mehdi Ali Khan.  Majrooh has a handful of songs with him (BAAGHI,
> AKELI MAT JAIYO, DASTAK, AAKHIRI DAO and some others), Kaifi Aazmi wrote
> songs

Kaifi worked with him in "Naunihal" (Rafi's Tumhari zulf ke saaye me
shyam etc etc). Wasn't Haqeeqat (or was it Hanste Zakham?) a Madan
Mohan-Kaifi combine too? Also, who wrote for Ek Mutthi Aasmaan? (The
KK-Vani Jairam duet Pyaar kabhi kam na karnaa sanam etc).
 

> Madan Mohan was not easy to write for.  He was intolerant of sloppy work. I
> urge you to do the following research.  You know what I mean when I talk
> about
> filler phrases in Hindi songs.  It is when the words don't fit the music just
> right, the singer does a bit of "Aa..." or "Oo..." and returns to home base.
> Try to find a Madan Mohan song that has this feature.  You will have real
> trouble.  He never had the need for fillers.  The words fitted just too
> perfectly.

The last sentence is quite inaccurate, to say the least. If I take your
words literally, you are off the mark. I can cite several Madan Mohan
examples where there are "fillers." To wit,

(a) Rafi's 'Yehi hai tamanna, tere dar ke saamne, meri jaan
jaaye....haaai...(filler a la carte!)...meri jaan jaaye from
"Aap ki Parchaeeyan."

(b) Kishore's 'Simti si sharmaayee si, kis duniya se tum aayi
ho..OOOOOO (whopper of a filler!), kaise jahaan me` from "Parwaanaa."

(c) Rafi's 'Tum jo mil gaye ho, to lagtaa hai, ke jahaaaaaaaa(filler
de la creme!)aaaa mil gayaa..` from "Hanste Zakham."

(d) Lata's 'Nainaa barse rhim jhim rhim jhim piya tore aavan ki yaad
aaaaaaaaaaaa(for here or to go filler!)...` from "Woh Kaun Thi."  Btw,
is there a soul who is not affected by this masterpiece? I use it
routinely as a meter to pronounce someone musically dead but I digress,
as is my habit.

And I could think of dozens more over an elegant cup of coffee and
a low-fat creamcheese croissant with almonds. Note that these are very
mainstream Madan Mohan comps, not some obscure pull-outs from cobwebbed
interstices of my memory. But my disagreement is more fundamental than
merely providing counter-examples. I have no problem whatsoever with
fillers if (and I stress "if") they are used to plug the right holes
within the structure of the prosody. Intelligent positioning of fillers
is not only desirable but often a sine quo non to wrap a delicate tune
around the words inorder to precipitate the overall effect. It is simply
because intonation of a "swara" - the basic 'unit` of melody, if you will -
in most cases, cannot be neatly constrained within the lattice of the
verse. Musical expression tends towards an unfettered existence and has
a life of its own. Sure, within the context of film music, the swara and
verse aren't completely independent and the former has to be shorn of
some ornamentation. But there is latitude available and good music composers
will find just the right relaxation within the lyrical structure to blend
tune and verse into an organic whole. Madan Mohan (Naushad-sahab and Roshan
come to mind as well) was a consummate master in this department, and if
this is what you meant (via unsaid extrapolation) we are in complete
harmony.

Now that we have gotten started we might as well ruminate over some more
cud. Madan Mohan and Roshan were sort of musical twins and one finds a
good deal of assonance in their music. Both had a firm grasp of the
classical formalism to which they stayed faithful throughout their
respective careers. They paid great attention to the lyrics and almost
always composed with the lyrics in hand as opposed to fitting words
to a pre-composed tune. (Elsewhere, Anonymous has commented on Madan
Mohan's exacting standards for lyrical quality. Well, with people like
Sahir around one might forgive Madan Mohan for being such a spoilt
brat. When Sahir wrote something, it came out cast in stone and he
wouldn't let you tweak even a single word.) Both were incurable
Lata-philes. And above all, highly original dudes.

Through the lens of musical scrutiny, however, differences in style
come into view. MM had been heavily influenced by his association
with Begum Akhtar and her music and hence had a strong foothold
in the demesne of the ghazal. He was singularly responsible
for tapping into the 'ras` that Lata's voice had to offer. A better
example of synergy in Hindi film music is hard to find. Time and
again we see the magnificent undulation of Lata's voice unfold in
Madan Mohan's babies, precision in intonation and inflection, and
all punctuated by delicate 'murkis.` Just two examples are:
'Hum pyaar me jalne waaloN ko` from Adalat and 'Jeeya le gayo ji mora
saaNwariya` from Anpadh. Notice how Lata's voice locks on and tracks
the words, giving a very tangible meaning to the phrase, 'poetry in fluid
motion` - the signature of a Madan Mohan composition.

Roshan, by contrast, was smoother in the flow but melodious all the
same. He seemed to have an unusual fondness for Raga Yaman Kalyan
(Man re tu kaahe na dheer dhare, Rafi's masterpiece from Chitralekha,
and Asha's Nigaahe milaane ko ji chaahataa hai from Dil hi to hai, to
cite a couple). And he spread himself around composing outstanding
mujras, qawwalis, ghazals and bandishes. My sentimental favourite
is his adaptation of the standard bandish in Raga Kamod (Aie ri
jaane na doongi - Lata - Chitralekha). To the best of my knowledge,
he never used Kishore Kumar, reason enough for me to use a slightly
smaller-sized font to write Roshan. Nevertheless, these were
exceptionally gifted men.
 

> >
> >jhan jhan jhan jhan paayal baaje kaise jaaoon pi se milan ko
> >Movie:               Buzdil
> >Starring:    Dev Anand, Kamini Kaushal (??)
> >Singer(s):   Lata
> >Music:               S.D.Burman
> >Lyrics:        Sahir (??)
>
> One of Lata's first few songs with S.D., this was accompanied by another

This is an adaptation by Burmanda of the well-known bandish in
Raga Nat-Bihag. Faiyyaz Khansaheb has an old recording of the cheez
and Mallikarjun Mansur was fond singing it as well.

Why didn't anybody think of recording standard bandishes in different
Ragas in Lata's voice (when it was in its prime, that is)? Or if they
did, why didn't they do it? Beats the hell out of me. I don't mean
a full-fledged kilassikal rendition but just asthaie-antaraa, a couple
of alaaps topped by a short taan or two. On the relatively few occasions
that this has happened the results have been exceptional. Give Lata
a Raga and within the first few notes you have the distillate. That's
how remarkable she is (was). Her renditions would have served as wonderful
markers for beginners and old fogeys alike. What a missed op!

<Rest of the long post deleted>

*****
It is amusing to see some dope periodically 'discover` that "Itna
na mujhse tu pyaar badhaa" has been 'copied` from Mozart and flash
it on the net. Almost always I detect more than just the need to point
the Mozart connection. More often than not, this 'discoveror` wants
to imply one or more of the following (a) most of Indian popular music
is copied from western sources, (b) the best work in our tradition _must_
have had a western origin, (c) Indian composers are somehow lacking in
originality. My explanation for the phenomenon (besides the fact that
they haven't bothered to inform themselves in the first place) is that
these people have cut their teeth suckling the milk of originality
oozing from Bappi Lahiri's creative nipples and they are doomed
to exponential decay unless salvaged by extensive root-canaling.

Why don't they ever subscribe to the converse viewpoint? Which is that
people such as OP Nayyar, Shankar-Jaikishan, Salil Chowdhary and such
like were so damn smart that they were eclectic enough to understand
foreign genres and adapt them at home. Particularly remarkable were
S-J - there isn't a form within the vast and diverse Indian matrix that
they haven't explored. Not only that, Russian, Arabic, Hungarian, Brazilian,
Japanese and African folk influence - all can be seen in their work. How
many composers in the world can make this boast? Verily, there isn't a
composer in the land who has covered as much ground, surveyed as many
genres AND consistently maintained a respectable QL/QN (quality/quantity)
ratio as these two. Our resident net-savant, young and handsome
Preetham Gopalaswamy, may have more to say on this, I suspect.

I wanted to talk about Naushad sahab too but will deny Sami that
pleasure for now. Also, a comparative look at Salil Chowdhary and
S.D. Burman would make for a good topic.
****

The topic of 'level of difficulty` and associated abilities of singers
has re-surfaced. Let me dwell on this briefly. The l.o.d. displayed is
a perfectly valid canon by which to evaluate a singer. But it is not
the only one nor is it the most important, IMO of course. Some of us
place a higher premium on originality (paradoxically, it ain't easy,
originality). That is why we reward Kishore -  not because he was capable
of great feats of swaracrobatics (to be sure, he wasn't), or had a sweeping
range over all the octaves (he didn't), but because in the realm of musical
expression he was supremely original. Let me ask you this.
Is there any intrinsic merit in making things difficult just for the
heck of it? In physics, for example, there are usually two approaches
to solving a problem - one is the time-tested brute force technique,
the domain of formidable tour de force'ers. The other is the intuitive
way, simpler in design but extremely elegant and almost always, profoundly
insightful. In music, Kishore Kumar could do the kind of magic beyond the
pale of even the most formidable technicians. Who would you have sing
"Chingaari koi bhadke" or "Zindagi ka Safar"? A Bhimsen, whose Sa is
as static (and ecstatic) as can be or a Kishore, who didn't give a damn
about Sa (I remember him telling Lata rather candidly, "Tum to jaanti ho
mujhe yeh Sa Re Ga Ma kuch nahiN aataa"!). Like many of his gems, these
are 'simple` tunes made immortal by sheer weight of expression, by a man
who could be profound without trying hard. It was never the kind of
delivery that beckoned, "I'm difficult and I beg of you to take
notice."

Manna Dey has an interesting story to tell. It was the practice session
for the recording of the Padosan classic "Ek Chatur Naar" that
had brought them all together - Kishore, R.D. Burman, Mehmood and
Manna. Manna had gone in well-prepared intending "to teach Kishore
a lesson." To paraphrase Manna: "As soon as we started it got utterly
hopeless for me. Here I was reproducing the song note-for-note, adhering
rigidly to the grammar while Kishore was out there having fun and had
captured the SPIRIT of the song effortlessly. I was sunk." I give Manna a
very solid A for that honest and accurate assessment. Recently we heard
Asha make a comment that Kishore was approx 1.5 times better than Rafi.
Nauuughty girl, but right on the dot.

For all the alleged 'simplicity` of Kishore's songs, I haven't yet come
across a soul around who can re-create them. I am not talking about merely
duplicating the tune swara for swara - even Suresh Wadkar can do that!
Any guesses why? Enough said.

Finally: If we are going to call Bombay's phillum industry Bollywood,
can we refer to Hollywood as Hombay? Old joke, I know.

Adios,

Rajan Parrikar
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