Article 6
 Lata Mangeshkar and Guiness Record?

Author: Preetham Gopalaswamy
 

The  following article is incontrovertible proof of 2 related yet
different issues

1] Lata could not have sung 25000 songs in her career  (and  most
certainly  not by the time that the Guiness Book Records included
it in its edition).

2] Lata was overtaken by Asha in the number of songs sung by each
of  them  (and Rafi was nowhere in the reckoning) as early as the
70s.

Furthermore,  after  reading  this  article,  Lata  herself  ack-
nowledged  the  fact to the author that the stories of her having
sung   25000    songs    were    most    probably    exaggerated.

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In his article, parrikar@spot.Colorado.EDU (Rajan Purshottam Parrikar) writes:

:This is what is said in 1982 Guinness Book of World Records:

:       Miss Lata Mangeshkar (b 1928) has reportedly recorded between
:       1948 and 1974 not less than 25,000 solo, duet and chorus backed
:       songs in 20 Indian languages. She frequently has 5 sessions in
:       a day and has "backed" 1,800 films to 1974.

:       Mohamad Rafi (d May 1, 1980) claimed to have recorded 28,000
:       songs in 11 Indian languages between 1944 and April 1980.

> I can buy the argument that the peak number is an exaggeration. But
> the assertion that Asha has more songs than Lata is a bitter pill to
> swallow.  This is handwaving, Janaab. Put your balls on the table
> and then we'll talk; i.e., let's see the article proving # of Asha
> songs > # of Lata songs.
 

You wanted the article, you got it.  Here are the details that  I
was  referring to.  This article was part of a longer article en-
titled "The Lata Legend" which appeared in FILMFARE in 1987.   It
is  a wonderful article which lovingly describes the woman behind
the voice, her likes, her dislikes, her views; it also traces her
career  and  the impact that she has had on popular Indian music.
The article has several wonderful pictures of Lata and her  fami-
ly.  I do not have the time right now to type in the whole thing,
and opted to enter just the section relevant to the Guiness  con-
troversy.  In a separate article by the same author on Asha Bhon-
sle entitled "Asha Bhonsle : The Voices"  (MOVIE,  August  1983),
there is a small table which compares the number of songs sung by
Asha, Rafi and Lata, in the 50s, where Asha leads  the  rest.   I
shall  append that table to the end of this article.  With a lit-
tle extrapolation and a basic knowledge of  the  big  picture  of
music in the 60s, one can see that Asha would certainly have sur-
passed Lata in numbers in the 60s (Nayyar was one of the most po-
pular and prolific composers and Lata did not sing for him; S. D.
Burman and Lata did not make music together due to some disputes,
not  until  the  film "Guide" which was in the late 60s).  By her
own admittance, Lata has been in semi-retirement through the late
70s and the 80s (she apparently spends 5 months in a year in Lon-
don) and the 70s saw the onset of the Disco era which belonged to
Asha.   So  I  guess that would be a handwavy way of making Rajan
swallow that bitter pill :-) :-) (Note: Subsequently, figures for
the 60s and 70s, which were unavailable in 1983 when the Asha ar-
ticle was written, became available.  Hence bear the date of  the
article in mind while reading it).

Here is the article!!  Any typos are mine.

                                                        Preetham

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                   A  CONTROVERSY  IN  THE  MAKING
                           by Punita Bhatt

                  (Source: Filmfare June 1-15, 1987)
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The following figures of Hindi film songs sung by Lata Mangeshkar
are  derived  from  the only authoritative work in the field, Har
Mandir Singh's "ENCYCLOPAEDIA OF HINDI FILM SONGS", so far avail-
able  in  three volumes, 1941-50, 1951-60 and 1961-70.  This very
scholarly work limits itself to  songs  from  Hindi  films  only;
therefore,  these  figures  DO  NOT INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING: Lata's
songs from the various regional films, non-film songs, and  songs
from films that remained incomplete or unreleased.

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        THE FORTIES             THE FIFTIES             THE SIXTIES

                               1951  :   218           1961  :   153
                               1952  :   171           1962  :   128
                               1953  :   189           1963  :   107
                               1954  :   166           1964  :   133
       1945  :     1           1955  :   209           1965  :    90
       1946  :     6           1956  :   200           1966  :   129
       1947  :     5           1957  :   135           1967  :   106
       1948  :    48           1958  :   127           1968  :    80
       1949  :   151           1959  :   193           1969  :    95
       1950  :   152           1960  :   158           1970  :   122
                ----                    ----                    ----
      TOTAL  :   363                    1766                    1143
                ----                    ----                    ----

                TOTAL FROM 1945-1970:  3272 SONGS
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It all seems to have started with an  article  published  in  the
March 12, 1971 issue of FILMFARE, in which Raju Bharatan observed
quite casually that Lata's voice had enhanced "the  tonal  appeal
of  some  16,000  songs in a variety of languages".  There was no
indication of how he came upon this figure.  The 16,000 jumped to
25,000  by  the  time  the item reached the Guiness Book of World
Records, and the period was said to be 1948-1971.

By the end of the seventies, it was  said  to  be  30,000  songs.
Since then the figure has hop-skipped-and-jumped every few years,
erratically, irresponsibly and always without documentation.  The
last  I  heard  was  an  article  claiming 50,000 songs on Lata's
behalf.  All this when she has been semi retirement for almost  a
decade now.

Where are these figures coming from ?  No one seems to  know  the
source or has any concrete information to support the claims.  It
seems to me that once this whole thing started, it has taken on a
life of its own, snowballing into increasingly ridiculous claims.
To some extent it may even have become a convenient tool, an  on-
going  game of one-upmanship between journalists - all at the ex-
pense of Lata Mangeshkar.

Throughout her life, Lata has refused to get involved in  contro-
versies,  whatever  the  nature,  no matter how bitter and biting
their tone.  She has often preferred silence over  clarification,
waiting for stories to die a natural death.  And they have, soon-
er or later.  And she has emerged always, with her reputation un-
scathed.   On  this issue she has stated categorically and with a
finality: "I don't know anything about it.  I don't know  how  my
name appeared in the Guinness Book or where they got their infor-
mation from.  Certainly, I didn't supply  it.   I  don't  keep  a
record of the number of songs I've done."

The sad part of all this is that numbers  is  not  what  Lata  is
about.   Her  greatness  as  an  artiste, her contribution to the
world of popular music, her stature as an imposing figure in pub-
lic life - none of these derive an iota from any statistics, real
or imagined.

Lata does not need 25,000 or 35,000 songs to be what she is or to
retain  her position in history, any more than Shakespeare needed
25,000 plays.  For Lata Mangeshkar, a "mere"  thousand  or  maybe
even  just one hundred songs would suffice.  It is in the "quali-
ty" of her contribution to the film song, the eternal  charm  and
magic of her voice, the dignity and class of her personality - it
is in these that she stakes a claim to  our  hearts  and  to  our
minds.   To think otherwise is to misunderstand the nature of the
love she commands and to denigrate a truly great lady.

I think this terribly fixation on numbers that has infected  pub-
lic  life in India is juvenile and hopefully will run its course.
Until then it is better to let those who need the figures compete
for  them,  to  race  for  the numbers and be their only claim to
fame.  Let us leave Lata out of the horse race.

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                THE FIFTIES -- ASHA BHONSLE'S DECADE

                   (Source: Movie August 1983)

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          Year          Asha            Lata            Rafi
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          1951            58             218              59
          1952            69             171              61
          1953           125             189              68
          1954           220             166              82
          1955           281             209             147
          1956           280             200             125
          1957           196             135             159
          1958           281             127             163
          1959           197             193             169
          1960           185             158             203
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         Decade Total   1892            1766            1236
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NOTE: These figures refer to Hindi film songs ONLY,  and  do  not
include regional or non-film music.

 From Hindi Film Geet Kosh (Encyclopaedia of Hindi  film  songs),
Volume  III, 1951-60 (compiled by Har Mandir Singh "Hamraj", Edi-
tor).  Figures provided by Mr. A. Rajamamar of Shahabad  (Gulbar-
ga).   Figures  for  the sixties and the seventies are not avail-
able.

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